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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:08/03/2008 09:28:51)
Just read this on another site (sorry, I do occasionally dip into others!!).
Oh My, I do hope he is OK and takes the time to recover. Although top athletes are very fit this can almost work against them because to do their job they have to be in peak conditioning. I would image most figure skating moves - jumps, spins, twists and turns - would create problems for someone with a healing surgical wound in their abdomen.
Maybe this has been the cause of his pain. He'll be nothing but scar tissue around there if he isn't careful.
I hope he takes a little time, goes home and rests. I'm not a betting person, but I can see him trying to return almost immediately. I hope the tour has doctors on hand that refuse to let him back. I know this may seem harsh but it would be for the good in the long term.
He's strong and determined so I'm sure he'll bounce back and be back enjoying himself and delighting us all soon.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:08/03/2008 10:56:26)
OH my gosh! I am glad they caught it in time,I hope he recovers well.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:08/03/2008 13:01:45)
WOW!!!! Well, this is certainly a stunner! I've been out of the loop for the last 24 hours due to blizzard conditions in my area of the US, and so haven't been online at all. Appendix surgery will certainly slow him down some.  I'm just glad that the tour was in an area which had the facilities to handle that kind of surgical procedure; there are probably areas in outlying parts of Russia that would be hard pressed to have the proper facilities. Hopefully he will follow the doctors' orders and not think that he can get out on the ice to do anything, let alone jumps. Let me amend that, lol, I hope and pray he follows doctors' orders, LOL. Mary C.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:08/03/2008 16:34:45)
Again? I have to admit, I wanted him to skate and compete again although he fell in Germany but he won't for sure... Can't wait for YouTube video. Heard he would stay in hospital for weeks.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:08/03/2008 19:50:06)
I hope they performed an appendectomy prior to the appendix bursting. The amount of time required for convalescence should depend upon that. One can recover very quickly if the appendicitis is caught in a sufficiently early stage, as mine was. The news was startling, but with good medical care, he should be fine before long. Let's pray for that.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:09/03/2008 13:44:09)
The news is now posted at both FSU and Goldenskate, as well as at AYDG.
Andrushka put a thread at FSU, and I started one at Goldenskate just now. I wish I had thought to check the "News" icon, but I was scarcely aware of the option when I was making the thread. I hope we get more news soon, about whether his appendix had burst prior to the surgery, and what his condition is now. When an appendix bursts, it can lead to infection of the peritoneal cavity, and that can be quite serious, so, please keep on praying for him, guys.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:09/03/2008 14:12:28)
I'm trying to obtain any information available other than the original interfax article but there does not seem to be anything further from Russian news sources. In most cases online news does not get posted during the weekends. The Russian bulletin boards have a few people who attended the March 7th show in Krasnodar and it appears that after Alexei performed Overcome and an encore performance of Winter he was taken to the hospital directly thereafter. During the March 8th show, still in Krasnodar, Ilya told the audience what had happened and after astonished gasps from the crowd everyone began to clap in support of Alexei...... Karenna  
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:09/03/2008 16:46:38)
Until we can get confirmation on whether or not Alexei's appendix burst, I think we should assume that it didn't and the surgery went well with everything being under control. I did research on what medical facilites are available in Krasnodar and discovered that there is a huge regional medical center based there for the entire area. Sochi is not far from there, as well. The city, itself, has a population of 800,000, (it's the 18th largest city in Russia) and from that I would think any large hospital would be well staffed with highly competent doctors. Given that information, I think he'd in the best hands, comparable to Moscow.
What we must hope is that some kind-hearted soul ties him to his hospital bed to prevent him from even thinking about returning to the ice before he's completely healed in 6 weeks or so, LOL.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:09/03/2008 19:29:34)
Only Alexei could skate with appendicitis.  I'm astonished that he could do it, but I don't know why. He's done similar things. The man is a machine. I'm so sorry. I agree, someone will have to glue him to the mattress to keep him from performing. I'm hoping the very best for him. Virago
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:09/03/2008 19:43:31)
Thanks, Karenna. I could not find anything newer than that. It is so like Alexei to be performing with a hot appendix. He had to be in pain, but I guess he's so used to being in pain, he just kept going. The AYDG mentioned that he was taken by ambulance to the hospital during the intermission on March 7, after he had performed. What a guy! I can imagine how worried Ilya Averbukh must have been. This is why I am so eager to find the news of whether Alexei's appendix had burst or not.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:10/03/2008 08:04:26)
Posted an hour ago on the KP.RU site. Apparantly is was done via laparoscopy ('key-hole') which is the typical way of carrying out the procedure. Done at midnight and lasted an hour. No complications. Apparantly the hospital is not really geared up for 'celebrity guests' so he's in a side room but they don't have suites and the nurses have been telling people he has already left to stop inquisitive fans trying to disturb him. As we suspected the doctors have told him to bed-rest for a month but he is saying as soon as he feels better he'll rejoin the tour. I almost find myself hoping that he doesn't make a quick recovery, otherwise he'll be back on the ice in a week or 2 without getting the rest he needs. http://www.kp.ru/daily/24060/303913/translation uploaded to swoopshare: http://en.swoopshare.com/file/a5ccd5fe9047aec559e9134138eeed5d/Alexei+Yagudin+zagremel+in+Krasnodar+in+hospital.doc.htmlSharon
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:10/03/2008 11:03:40)
Just posted on izvestia.ru site (about 45mins ago) - with quotes from Alexei's agent. Looks like Alexei is out of hospital and in Moscow. I didn't think he would need to be in long. Hope his honey looks after him well.
Nothing new from previous posts on the operation but looks like the 1 month rest is now 7-10 days! I don't know if that is Alexei talking though or the doctors!!
However, the laparoscopy recovery is much faster than the older method.
http://izvestia.ru/sport/article3113835/
"I especially want to note effectiveness and professionalism of local doctors, - speaks Dmitriy goryachkin. - Already today Leshu they must extract, and it will arrive flying to Moscow. Physicians consider that the operation must not derive it from the system for a long time. Seven-ten days it must find in the state of rest, and then it will be able to renew trainings ".
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:10/03/2008 16:10:19)
Sharon...thanks for the lastest information. However, I saw another translation at Laurie's, AYDG board, and according to her translation it's 70 days, not 7 to 10 days. Maybe Karenna can take a look at the original Russian article and figure out which length is the correct one. I pray it's the 70-day one, lol.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:10/03/2008 17:41:03)
Oy! Thanks be to God that Alexei is fine! He must be - I read that he is his usual self, smiling and making jokes.....From what I have read Mary, most of the Russian articles are quoting 7 to 10 days due to laprascopic surgery which is not as invasive as the old-fashioned method of excision. Alexei will be returning to Moscow for further medical evaluation and hopes to be back in the show very shortly. Thank you so much sharon - what a relief to know that everything is ok..... Karenna 
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:10/03/2008 20:20:48)
Thanks so much for the new information! I am thinking now that his appendix must not have burst after all, that they got it out in time!  That's wonderful!!!! Let's keep praying for his healing to go well. Lina (a much happier camper now  )
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:11/03/2008 12:23:32)
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:11/03/2008 18:41:29)
Thanks, Sharon. I just read another article (thanks to AYDG) at:
http://tden.ru/newspappers/453/028234/
and I am now thoroughly confused, and a little frightened. The other day an article said that the doctors intended to say he had already left for Moscow, while he was actually still in Krasnodar, in order to discourage visitors, as he needed rest. The article I just listed says he signed himself out against the doctors' recommendations, and flew to Moscow. I am not sure what to think.
The part that really frightens me, is that this article says it was a "complex" operation,
"not simple appendicitis, but purulent". Furthermore, it says "this complicated form is encountered only in 30% of patients". From these statements, I fear that his appendix did indeed rupture. It says that Alexei signed himself out, taking full responsibility for doing so, after blood analysis.
Please do keep praying for him. I hope he at least has his blood checked again in Moscow, to make sure that he is free of infection. My heart is heavy tonight, and will be, until I feel sure he is out of danger.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:11/03/2008 20:44:54)
Oh, geez! This whole situation is starting to give me bad feelings. I did a bit of research tonight on the complications to appendectomy and infection; there are various ways of treating the situation, including antibiotics and draining the surgical site. According to this last article there was pus in the appendix area, which explains a blurb I saw earlier today that reported he had a slight fever. The surgeons would have performed extensive blood tests to track his progress or lack of it. Since they did inform him of his situation, I'm speculating that Alexei wanted to be treated by his own doctors who would be much more familiar with his case, and signed himself out with the intentions of flying directly to Moscow where his own doctors can evaluate and address his care.
Personally, I think his actions are foolish but I do understand his desire to be under the care of familiar doctors; this is probably fueled by a certain sense of fear due to the unexpected finding of this infection. About all the doctors in Krasnodar could do would be to load him up with enough antibotics to hold him until he could be examined by his own doctors back in Moscow.
At this point I hope there are further reports about this in the Russian press or there's going to be a whole lot of fans frightened out of their minds.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:11/03/2008 21:06:59)
.....part of me is trying not to panic at this point with the news that Alexei had the "stage2" form of appendicitis - the purulent form with impending rupture and infection. A few years ago my mother was hospitalized for 3 weeks due to peritonitis which occured under similar circumstances - 3 weeks of intense antibiotic therapy which was thankfully successful.....it takes time to heal and I only hope that Alexei will allow himself that opportunity..... .....Alexei looks like he has been through quite a lot these last few days...I pray he heals quickly. Thanks so much for the articles Lina and sharon.....  Karenna
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:11/03/2008 21:41:57)
I spoke with friend of mine tonight who is a registered nurse and I asked her about what might be the causes for pus/infection with appendicitis. She told me that pus doesn't necessarily indicate that the appendix has burst. It can also mean that the swollen appendix is leaking fluid and that fluid has become infected with in the abdomen. She, also, said that a slight fever after that surgery is quite common and usually goes away within one or two days, and that if the surgery was done by the laparoscopic method and he was taking antibiotics to deal with whatever infection, it's no big deal that he checked himself out of the hospital, assuming he contacted his personal physician as soon as he reached home. Problems would arise if he neglects to contact his doctors on his return to Moscow because the situation needs to be monitored. His condition can be handled with oral antibiotics. The antibotics he would have been receiving in the hospital would have been administered by IV and would be stronger than the oral equivalents.
So...things may not be quite as out of hand as some of us think they may be, lol.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:12/03/2008 05:42:43)
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:12/03/2008 11:33:38)
Ah that wee bed, no wonder he wanted to discharge himself. Even with its flowery bed linen the room looks bare and lonely..and there's nothing as nice as your own bed when you are feeling poorly.
I fear that Alexei's 'I know my body better than the doctor's' may backfire on him if he isn't careful. Let's hope his actions just look a little foolhardy and he is actually being careful. Being up and about and feeling fine is one thing but with the strenuous nature of his work he needs to be properly healed.
I think the bandages may look worse than ther are. They are actually 3 seperate dressings. When they do laparoscopic surgery in the abdomen they often make several small incisions to get a good look around, especially if there has been leakage they would have needed to clean it out. There can be a fair bit of bruising as well.
thanks for the links, updates and pictures Kareena.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:12/03/2008 12:25:02)
Thanks again, Sharon, and thanks so much, Karenna, for the photo links! Seeing him somehow cheers me up.
From the AYDG I got a link to an article of today, with a close-up of Alexei smiling with a doctor. That smile is like good medicine for me lol. http://www.rg.ru/2008/03/12/reg-kuban/ygudin.html
But this article does say--I checked it out myself to be absolutely sure----that Alexei has had "purulent appendicitis, complicated by peritonitis". Yep; that's what I was afraid of. In the old days, they did a lot of drainage of pus, and when antibiotics came in, they combined drainage with the drugs. Now, apparently, at least in this case, they are relying on the drugs to take care of the problem. I think he really needs to keep his condition monitored medically for a while, to make sure the infection does not flare up again, and I wish he would not do anything overly strenuous for a week. I think it's probably okay for him to do just enough to stay in shape, but no jumping for a week, please, oh please, and no heavy lifting; I am begging, here. If he abuses his body right now, he might find himself with much more hospital time later.
Dear Alexei, everyone wants you back on the ice, but please get fully healed before you stress your body a lot, so that you will be able to skate for the world for a long, long time. You are so loved; your fans want you to get well, please know that, and rest just a little for us...just a little, please. It's probably okay just to stroke around on the ice, I think; that should prevent adhesions from developing. Just please rest from the big stuff for a little while...
Lina 
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:13/03/2008 02:50:38)
Karenna you were right! Alexei is a very stubborn young man.
http://www.trud.ru/issue/article.php?id=200803120432402
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:13/03/2008 10:43:15)
Katusha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for the article! I think that is what I admire in Alexei - his stubborness but sometimes I wish he would place his health above all else. Perhaps this is not my place to say so but I was a little surprised that Sasha had not arrived at the hospital in Krasnodar to be with Alexei. I truly do not know the circumstances and it could have been commitments to taping and performance which may be very difficult to get out of due to timing issues. I guess I just relate this to myself and God knows I devote too much time to work sometimes but I have also been known to say to a boss/supervisor "I need the time off to be with the close people in my life - I can always find other employment but I cannot replace the precious time with my dear ones. So, if I have to make a choice in this my work will not come first." Thankfully, I 've always won the battle on this. Karenna
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:13/03/2008 20:02:29)
Thanks for the article, Katusha.
I can see that I shall be worrying about him; Tomsk on the schedule was 03 13 08--just checked: the AYDG says he *did* perform, but without the jumps, thank God. I am grateful to Laurie for giving us the news that he did not do jumps today. I love the way one of his fans, Kleliya in Omsk, wrote to him on the Ice Symphony forum. Laurie quotes her, close to the bottom of this page:
http://alexeidiscussiongroup.yuku.com/topic/365/t/Ice-Age-Tour-Schedule-amp-Reviews.html?page=18
Maybe posters like Kleliya will make him see how important his health is to his fans. Her last paragraph is so earnest and touching; I love it.
And so, we breathe....one day at a time....and hope.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:13/03/2008 20:18:46)
Oh my gosh!!! Alexei actually returned to the tour and performed in Tomsk! (without the jumps thank goodness). This man is superhuman - there is simply no other explanation.
Thanks for the update Lina!
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:14/03/2008 10:39:25)
Thanks to everyone for all the information. I'm glad he's doing well. The pictures of him smiling were nice to see, but I don't know where he gets that stubborn strength. I, like all of you, wish he'd take time off.
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RE:Alexei Hospitalized in Krasnodar - Appendix Operation!!
(Date Posted:17/03/2008 21:06:09)
My apologies to Sasha Savelyeva for my belief (in error) that she did not travel to Krasnodar hospital where Alexei was recuperating after his operation. I have just listened to a taped radio interview where she has explained that she was at his side for 6 hours shortly after his appendix was removed. I'm glad that I was wrong.....
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